Why Ron’s comments on Manchester United are way off the mark

Manchester United Football Club is enduring a testing and win less time that is strange and alien to them. They are now further adrift of the top of the league than they were ahead at the end of last season, and have gone four games without victory. Poor David Moyes is sure to have understood the scope of his challenge at Old Trafford. Sir Alex Ferguson left him with an aged squad short of quality midfielders.

The current state of things have naturally lead people to doubt Man United will even qualify for the Champions League. Moyes offered some explanation on Saturday, saying his side is in transitional period. There’s little doubt there are issues to address at Old Trafford, and I believe things will get worse before they get better. The mighty United might be looking at one or two trophyless seasons before they reassemble their strike force, something I think most fans are bracing themselves for. Former United manager Ron Atkinson, however, thinks that’s not an option.

Fergie’s predecessor has rubbished Moyes’s excuse that the team is going through a transition, saying that he can’t afford that as Manchester United manager. Atkinson even stated that the minimum requirement every season is a Champions League spot – something I think we all can agree on – and a trophy, the latter of which seems unfair on Moyes, as Fergie had the odd trophyless season himself.

But at the centre of Atkinson’s argument, we find his claims that Man United cannot afford to go through a transitional phase. Real Madrid and Barcelona never go through transitions, why should United?

Now, for the sake of the argument I’m going to pretend Barcelona didn’t go six years without winning a trophy between 1999 and 2005, because it seems like Mr Atkinson has chosen a similar approach.

Although United should consider themselves on level with Barca and Real Madrid in terms of international influence and size, it is near impossible to ever compete with the Spanish club’s pulling power. Especially in recent years the two clubs have displayed their merit by attracting the biggest names away from the Premier League.

Cristiano Ronaldo and Gareth Bale’s departures to the Spanish capital illustrates the prestige Real Madrid enjoy around the globe. Manchester United themselves have struggled to attract big name-signings ahead of the the south European giants before. It seems that few clubs can really challenge them. As an example, United were in a prime position to sign Alexis Sanchez in 2011. The deal was all but done, until Barca hijacked the deal at the last second. Alexis barely blinked, his choice was that easy. The same thing that happened with Ronaldinho in 2003.

Man United doesn’t even boast superior pulling power over fellow English clubs. The likes of Chelsea, Manchester City, Arsenal and arguably Liverpool will all compete on level ground in the transfer market. Despite their massive dominance the last twenty years, the Red Devils will probably never enjoy the infamous stature of the two Spanish teams.

And now back to the point about Moyes not being allowed to go through a transition. Most Man United fans are clever enough to accept that the period immediately succeeding Sir Alex Ferguson – the man who took the team from mediocrity to immensity, built  a new club virtually with his bare hands and established reign of power that spanned  across three decades – might prove to be slightly less fruitful. The fact that the entire entire back room staff is replaced as well will only further prolong the process.

Even Fergie himself experienced a transition in the mid 00’s. After three seasons without a trophy between 2004 and 2007, Ronaldo and Rooney suddenly released their ability upon the world. The reward for having patience with Ferguson back then was four league titles and a Champions League win.

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Manchester United are in the middle of a transitional period. The board knows it, David Moyes knows it and the fans know it. As with every transition, it will be unpredictable, and things might seem worse at times than they actually are.

No Ron, Manchester United have no choice but to endure the transition. We will just all have to be patient.

Hull City loan star weighing up his options

Hull City loanee David Stockdale is keen on making his move to the KC Stadium permanent this summer if Fulham allow him to leave Craven Cottage.

The highly rated stopper has been unable to force his way into the first team under Martin Jol and is set to leave on a permanent basis this summer.

Stockdale has been an unsung hero for the Tigers as they secured a dramatic last day promotion back to the Premier League at the expense of Watford who have to settle for the play-offs.

Hull were a breath of fresh air when they were last in the top flight and without breaking the bank, boss Steve Bruce will add a number of players to his squad with Stockdale looking likely to be first in the door.

“I will be going back to Fulham some time this week. You’ve got to leave the door open,” Stockdale told talkSPORT.

“Unfortunately my chances at Fulham have been a bit limited. Although I love the club maybe it’s time to move if pastures new come.”

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Fergie braced for £8m bid & £25m well spent by Manchester United – Best of MUFC

Managers often moan that international breaks are a disruptive irrelevance during the season. Sir Alex Ferguson will certainly feel the current round of fixtures were extremely ill-timed given United’s superb victory in the North East last time out as they bounced back from an eye opening home loss a week prior. Any momentum gained from the win at St James’ Park was immediately lost as Ferguson watched from the departure lounge as several of his Red Devils jetted off to represent their country across the globe. The Old Trafford chief has only one objective this season and that is to wrestle the title away from the blue half of Manchester. With an uninterrupted run to the New Year he will eager to hit the ground running and ensure his players are ready the brutal Christmas schedule that usually sees United shift upwards through the gears.

This week on FFC does Ferguson need to majorly overhaul his defence and can United convince captain Nemanja Vidic to resist the allure of a bumper Russian payday in January?

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Tom Cleverley: The future or merely a temporary solution?

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A Return Sure To Boost Manchester United – The Busby Way

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“I have to disagree with Jason Roberts. I think he is making the wrong point. Everyone should be united, with all the players in the country wearing the Kick it Out warm-up tops. I don’t know what point he is trying to make. “I don’t know if he is trying to put himself on a different pedestal from everyone. But he really should be supporting all the rest of the players who are doing it.” Sir Alex Ferguson condemns Jason Roberts’ stance on the Kick It Out campaign 

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Redknapp hails ‘fantastic’ performance

QPR manager Harry Redknapp celebrated the performance of his side after their 1-0 Premier League win over Chelsea.

Shaun Wright-Phillips came off of the bench to net the only goal of the game against his former club.

The three points move the Super Hoops level with Reading, and to within five points of safety.

Redknapp was happy with his team after the game, saluting their attitude on the pitch:

“They worked their socks off tonight and you get your reward if you work like that – and that’s what we did,” Redknapp told Sky Sports.

“It was a fantastic performance. We restricted Chelsea to very few chances and we deserved it.

“We had good opportunities as well and if the final pass had been better…. we hit some final sloppy passes but then we got that fine goal.

“I’m just really pleased with out first away win for over a year.

“They’ve set the standard tonight and if we’re going to get out of this mess then they have to work as hard as that – not just once but every week.”

Adel Taarabt was deployed in a central forward role for the second-half, a move which Redknapp was delighted with:

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“I pulled him over yesterday and told him I’d play him up front,

“I told him to hold the ball up and wait for us to join him.

“We worked on it for a couple of hours in training. It was a gamble really but the shape was good. I’m not even sure if he’s played up front before.”

The "Twenty’s Plenty" Campaign For Cheaper Away Match Tickets

I’ve always been the perfect football consumer for those who run our beautiful game. Compliant, faithful, loyal and ripe for exploitation. As ticket prices have risen by up to 1000% in English football over the past couple of decades, I have handed over my money time after time with little more than a quiet grumble along with millions of others, dazzled by the Premier League/Sky “brand”.

But with anything, there is always a tipping point, and that point may be close, if it hasn’t already arrived. When Manchester City recently returned 900 unsold tickets to Arsenal before their match at the Emirates the media took up the story, resulting in widespread debate about the state of the modern game and the treatment of the modern fan. Nothing new had happened at City, there have been boycotts and unsold allocations galore across the nation for as long as I can remember, but at last it appears that fans are beginning to question their blind loyalty.

With this in mind, the Football Supporters’ Federation (FSF) have launched the Score campaign, or more specifically the push for “twenty’s plenty for away tickets”. A series of events for fans are planned and last night I attended the first one, in a bar in Manchester. Approximately a hundred fans turned up to the event, along with a Sky presenter, cameraman, the odd football365.com writer plus a member of the Farm. An eclectic bunch, with one thing in common. We are all fed up of being ripped off.

The event was led by two FSF representatives, who made a few points before contributions were taken from the crowd. It was pointed out that using just the increase in the next TV deal for the Premier League, clubs could afford clubs to drop every ticket price by £30 and be no worse off. Of course they won’t if not challenged, and this money will go almost exclusively to the players, as it always does.  The question was asked why the campaign was only focusing on the away fans, the minority, when the problem affects both sets of fans. The FSF admitted that they are not a huge organisation and cannot try and fix everything, and that this was a starting point, something to focus on for now. Other issues could then follow. Away fans are the focus first because they are the ones that have travelled the length and breadth of the country to be there, have often spent a huge amount to just get to the ground, and are the set of fans that are treated the worst. Promotional ticket offers are not available to away fans, category pricing punishes fans that happen to support a successful team, they often get the worst seats in the ground, yet are vital to the match-day experience, without whom grounds would become little more than libraries a lot of the time.

Judging by the contributions from the floor, the issue is something that the big fan groups have been campaigning against for some time, but the hope from such meetings and the campaign as a whole is that this is not a battle fought along club lines.  Getting the likes of Manchester United and Liverpool fans to stand together in the fight for cheaper tickets may well be the biggest battle faced, and such divides were apparent during the meeting, as we heard from the likes of members of the Spirit of Shankly, and what they had already campaigned for over the past few years. But as one Stoke City supporter pointed out, many “smaller” clubs do not have organized fan groups, and this has to be a concerted campaign.  After all, as the Manchester City, Manchester United and Liverpool fans present at the meeting will know all too well, concerted campaigns against owners have been carried out for decades. This campaign is different because it is not about one club, in the same way that Manchester City failing to sell their allocation at Arsenal was not just about Arsenal. The £20 price-cap figure seems rather optimistic, perhaps only picked because it rhymed with plenty, but it is a starting point, and a bargaining tool. If a cap was eventually agreed at £30, then I doubt few would argue.

It seemed most did not believe in the idea of boycotting matches. After all, going to matches under difficult circumstances is often considered a badge of honour for many fans. You will simply never stop some fans going to matches, whatever the price. However, other ideas were put forward instead. The Bundesliga was used as an example whereby German fans refused to make any noise for the first 12 minutes of matches recently to protest at treatment of fans. Also mooted was turning up late to games, or leaving early, an idea I can’t see catching on.

The most popular idea however seemed to be club fans uniting on a demo in London, outside Premier League HQ. The popular sentiment was that the only way to make the Premier League and FA sit up and take notice was to hit them where it hurt – namely in their pockets, or more specifically with agitation against their sponsors. Because if the likes of Barclays are tainted by their association with products they sponsor, then their subsequent threats to cancel such deals would garner action. Sending 900 tickets back to a club that then sells them on to home fans would not.

The meeting ended rather suddenly, with no firm plan of action agreed, which is understandable, as it was more a case of getting the ball rolling. The FSF will update its website and provide on there a focal point for the campaign, a place for rival fans to discuss the issue, and it was great to discuss the matter with such a wide-ranging set of fans last night. We could just sit back and accept our lot, and pay for just the matches we can afford, but football fans are the lifeblood of the biggest “brand” (yuk) in the world, and it’s about time that supporters in this country stood up for ourselves as others have elsewhere. With modern means of communication and the rise of social media, the tools are there for a concerted and successful campaign, when added to the list of contacts the FSF has already built up. It may seem wildly optimistic to make the Premier League (and Football League too for that matter), change their ways when the money continues to roll in, but if fans rebel en masse, they will be forced to take notice.

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A sign that a Liverpool exit is being considered?

Liverpool have been linked with both Ajax playmaker Christian Eriksen and Shakhtar Donestk forward Henrik Mkhitaryan over the last couple of days, but is this a sign that the club are planning to make a statement or two of ambition in the summer, or a signal that contingency plans are being prepared for the departure of Luis Suarez?

The club recently announced that net debt increased by a third from £65.4m in July 2011 to £87.2m in May 2012, which has seen many concerned that this could have an impact on their ability to compete for the brightest talents in Europe when the campaign finishes in the transfer market.

Manging director Ian Ayre dismissed the £22m rise in debt as a sign that the club were simply getting their house in order behind the scenes: “The accounting period we are talking about followed on from the fact we did a refinancing of our (banking) facilities, which gave us £120m facility over three years. As part of that £120m there was around £40m of stadium debt; debt that has existed on various projects we have worked on to find a solution to improved capacity.” He went on to cite that the club were still making payments on several players including Stewart Downing and Jordan Henderson, while they had to fork out £9.5m in the summer for manager Brendan Rodgers and his backroom staff.

With a top four slot slipping away this term, which was to be expected in a period of gradual transition under a new coach trying to implement a new style, despite the club’s wage bill being radically reduced, what is clear is that the longer the club remains out of the Champions League, the more it will impact on their ability to attract top players and keep hold of world-class talents like Suarez. Should the Uruguayan stay next season, he will be doing the Merseyside outfit a massive favour, because he could pretty much name his price to any club in the world after the outstanding year he’s had.

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The future of Suarez looks likely to be one of those tiresome transfer sagas that will dominate the back pages all summer, that is until he inevitably signs a massive bumper pay deal and stays for one more season before swanning off to either Germany or Spain. It’s a predictable situation that will continue to happen as long as Liverpool fail to establish themselves in the top four, while the aforementioned debt rise will play a part.

Rodgers refused to believe that the club’s budget will be compromised too much, though, telling reporters: “If you look where the club was at four years ago and where it is now it is a different place. Of course there is still debt there but I think next year’s results will show further improvement on that. In terms of me building the squad I’ve already got the assurances it won’t affect anything.

“I think you have to give massive credit to the board and FSG because they took on an astronomical amount of debt – almost £400million – so where it is at now in their short period of time here is a huge credit to them while still supporting the investment of the team.

“They have made every promise and every commitment to me that every single penny they have will go into generating the squad and making it better. We won’t be able to do it like some clubs and throw out masses each year but that is something as a club we are looking to standardise here while still growing the club and bringing in quality players and that won’t stop in the summer.”

The club’s heavy business during the January transfer window also has to be considered, with both Daniel Sturridge and Philippe Coutinho costing approximately £20.5m and it would be surprising if Rodgers was given anything more than £15-20m to spend on new players before departures. Any deal for Eriksen would likely take up the vast majority of that budget just in the same way that Joe Allen did last summer.

The recruitment of former Manchester City scouting duo Dave Fallows and Barry Hunter in September has already seen a shift in policy from the summer and bodes well for the future and it seems that Liverpool are seriously targeting Eriksen, with Ajax director of football and former Arsenal winger Marc Overmars admitting to De Telegraaf on Friday: “We have the list of the scouts of foreign clubs who have been here recently and Liverpool has been a regular visitor.” Meanwhile, reports have emerged that a two-man delegation was sent to keep tabs on Mkhitaryan.

The main sticking point aside from budgets will be convincing either or both of Eriksen to trade guaranteed Champions League football with Ajax and Shakhtar Donetsk for what at the moment looks at best to be another year in the Europa League. Prestige is the most important currency going in football and Liverpool haven’t got the biggest line of credit around.

The 21-year-old Denmark international would be something of a transfer coup should they convince him to trade the Netherlands for Anfield and he could really excel in that role at the tip of a midfield three which Joe Allen has struggled at times in and Jordan Henderson, who has impressed since the turn of the year, has seemingly failed to earn the full faith of Rodgers. Jonjo Shelvey is still regarded as a raw talent and Steven Gerrard has been moved deeper, while Coutinho has been earmarked for one of the two wide roles, so it certainly fits from a positional perspective and the biggest single move the club can make to convince Suarez to stay is to bring in a better calibre of player.

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When it comes to Mkhitaryan, the Armenian international is possibly the most like-for-like replacement that could be pursued should Suarez leave at the end of the season. He’s comfortable in both a deeper-lying role and as he has shown this year, playing as an out-and-out striker, which will be a versatility that appeals to Rodgers, but the club are unlikely to be able to afford both Eriksen and the Shakhtar man, so it’s a case of either or, but it could just as equally be a contingency plan for Suarez, which is a wise move to ensure they are not caught short.

Liverpool have progressed under Rodgers this season, but when it comes to spending, there is simply not a limitless tap that will be turned on as soon as the transfer window opens again, so the debt and the good business done in January will have a huge say on the budget he is handed.

The club look to be targeting the sort of players capable of playing in the Champions League and bridging that sizeable gap between the top four and the top eight where they currently find themselves stranded in, but a lot rests on the shoulders of Suarez and his future, whether that be in terms of the shape and quality of the side, or the nature of their summer business and the players they are able to sign.

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Wenger calls for patience on starlet’s return

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has reiterated that youngster Jack Wilshere will not be rushed back into the first-team after spending 14 months on the sidelines with injury, according to The Daily Mail.

Wenger had dismissed speculation that the Arsenal ace could be in line for a return against Chelsea on Saturday and says Wilshere will play for the Gunners’ under-21 side against West Brom on Monday.

The Frenchman believes that Monday’s game is another important step in the recovery from the 20-year-old’s persistent ankle problems, “It is another important step, but he has not played for 14 months so we have to calm your impatience a little bit.”

Wenger says that he is personally delighted that Wilshere is on the mend, “It is fantastic for him, especially for him.” Wenger also remarked that it had taken a lot of mental strength for Wilshere to recover from his injury woes which subsequently saw the midfielder miss the whole of last season and Euro 2012, “When you are that age and are out for such a long time, that is absolutely massive to take.”

With the international break forthcoming, England have a double-header in which Wenger is reluctant to let Wilshere partake in. The Gunners boss joked that whilst he would have reservations letting his starlet feature in the Poland match, he would happily let him play in the Three Lions’ World Cup qualifier, “I think that will be too early for him. He has not played for 14 months. Who does England play, San Marino? I think he can play in that game.”

The return of Wilshere will certainly come as a welcome addition for Arsenal. Now 20, the talented Wilshere is the youngest ever league debutant for the Gunners after making  his debut aged 16 at Blackburn, and is also only the fifth sixteen-year-old to play in a Champions League game.

Meanwhile, the Arsenal boss has received further injury boosts this week after confirming that captain Thomas Vermaelen will return for the Chelsea game after missing last Sunday’s draw at Manchester City due to illness.

Additionally, dogged midfielder Emmanuel Frimpong came off the bench in Arsenal’s 6-1 victory over Coventry last night following a serious knee injury he sustained whilst on loan at Championship outfit Wolverhampton Wanderers last season. He is expected to once again start from the bench for the arrival of the European champions.

Despite this, Saturday’s London derby will come too soon for Frenchman Bacary Sagna, who like Wilshere, is back in full training.

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West Brom not getting carried away insists Foster

West Brom goalkeeper Ben Foster insists that the team are not getting carried away despite moving up to fifth position in the Premier League.

The Baggies beat Southampton 2-0 at the Hawthorns to go to within goal difference of the Champions League positions following a solid start to the campaign.

However Foster is adamant the team are remaining grounded despite their lofty position:

“It’s a cliché but we are really not getting carried away we are taking each game as it comes and we will just see where it goes,” He SkySports after the game.

“For the majority of the table I think there are 14 odd teams probably hoping to get to the 40 point mark and take it from there and we’re no different”

“We will get to that 40 point mark as soon as possible and see what games we have left.”

Two goals from striker Peter Odemwingie were enough to decide the game and leave the Saints rooted to the foot of the table.

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The Nigerian broke the deadlock with a deflected 25-yard effort to give his side the advantage heading into the half-time interval.

He then doubled both his and the teams tally in the 60th minute, heading in a pin-point cross from Shane Long.

United and Chelsea monitor Frenchman

Manchester United and Chelsea are both keeping tabs on young Lille defender Lucas Digne, according to The Daily Mail.

The 19-year-old left-back broke into the Ligue 1 side’s first-team last season, and has impressed with standout performances for Les Dogues so far this term.

The teenager has represented France from under-16 to under-19 level, and is adjudged to be one of the most promising prospects in the game in the country currently.

Both Premier League giants sent scouts to watch Digne play for Lille against Rennes on Friday, and were suitably intrigued to provide positive reports on the energetic full-back.

Chelsea are looking for long-term options at left-back with Ashley Cole in the last year of his current deal and ageing, with Ryan Bertrand marked as the England man’s successor.

United meanwhile signed Alexander Buttner in the summer to provide competition for places for Patrice Evra, but are still considering strengthening in this area.

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By Gareth McKnight

The TEN players managers just ‘cannot resist signing’

Sometimes in life, we all go through spells craving something that we simply cannot live without. Be that money, beer or a certain someone, there is always something that makes us tick a little bit better than without it. But in the case of these gentleman, that comes in the form of a, err, profesional footballer.

Indeed, whether Brendan Rodgers craved Joe Allen for his midfield dynamism or simply someone to knock back a few glasses of Rioja with on the River Mersey, he decided he simply had to pay £15million to get him to move from Swansea with him. But he is by no means the first, or likely the last manager, to crave one of his old boys.

Here are ten, player-manager relationships that were so good, they simply couldn’t wait to seek each other out in an orgy of transfer fee based excitement. Some have tasted success together, others have tasted long-standing mediocrity together and some find life so hard without the other, they sign them four times and counting in their career.

Click on Joe Allen below, and feel the love for yourself

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Are you not feeling the love with any of these top ten picks? Or are you a supporter of a club who paid over-the-odds for one of their chums to come to your club? Tell me what you think on Twitter: follow @samuel_antrobus and get involved with the talk. 

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